The Qimen Method: Read Anyone Under 2 Seconds

I’ve forgotten all about this old theory that Dato had taught many years back. He said in case you were in an unfamiliar social setting, or in a meeting, or even amongst friends or colleagues, someone you met for the first time, you could actually plot out that hour’s Qimen chart to understand their personalities and intentions without even needing their birthdays or stare at their faces or pull out a deck of cards.

So happened my group chats were sending pictures of those out during the eclipse and my cheeky side wanted to jokingly tease whoever was sitting on the worst sector on the worst day of the year. So I plotted the chart and suddenly this technique came into mind after noticing a pattern. I was so amazed by the accuracy that I just had to share.

I’m just going to use a random photo here to demonstrate, so happen to have the right amount of people fit into one chart. From your naked eye, note their seating or standing arrangements and just mentally label them this way:


I tilted the chart to face the correct direction these people were facing. So you do need to know your orientation.

Note: If you don’t have 7 or 8 people, roughly gauge their direction from you. If you have more than 7 or 8, share the box but split the upper and lower stems.

Once you’ve identified the box, you can start reading them. This is actually quite a neat party trick.

Person 1 : Moon Pillar Harm Gui Yi

Moon+Harm = Hunting for information through conversation (Pillar) but there is a 6 crescent punishment (Gui in Xun) which may mean the person may have accidentally overshared instead of hunting, which will work against him/her. In terms of personality, an incredibly knowledgeable person but hard to get to know on a personal level. Their personal life is well hidden. Impatient, likes things done their way and loves to talk. Growth is an important factor in their life.

Person 2 : Snake Heart Delusion Ding Xin DE

This person looks like s/he didn’t want to go (DE) or s/he is almost wanting to leave to go somewhere else (hexagram), but they have 1 very specific reason for sitting here, like they had 1 particular motive (Snake + Heart). In terms of personality, This person so happens to also be a Surging Snake hence fitting the chart and own personality, has one expertise that they have mastered but at the moment being very over shadowed or unnoticed (delusion). They have tried a lot of different methods but at the moment still not working out.

Person 3: Chief Grass Scenery Geng Yi/Bing DE/HS (Nullified)

This person has the most authority (Chief) amongst everyone else in the room. They also happen to be the most good looking (Scenery) and had big plans, some are working out some are not because there were saboteurs involved (Great White In Darkness structure) and at one point was at a loss (Small structure). Personality wise, this person is the most giving, pure and big hearted, already mentioned good looking but has their own rash way of doing things, which was what attracted the haters/opposition. But in the end, goodness wins, yay (hexagram).

Person 4: 9 Heavens Ambassador Death Ren Gui

This box, is not a very nice box. It shows that this person has the most headache at the moment (Ren+Gui) either because a financial plan or a high level management plan gone wrong (Ambassador+Death). The good news is that all it needs is a brand new vision, new perspective and to follow their gut/intuition to solve it (9 Heavens + Death + hexagram). Personality wise, this person’s views in life are always 3 steps ahead of their peers. S/He had to go through a few painful downfalls but each time it happens they climb higher and higher. They only need to learn to take charge of their unhealthy thought pattern. That’s the only thing in their way.

Person 5: 9 Earth Destructor Fear Ding Wu

This was the worst box in this hour, as highlighted in our FSA events. NW on Eclipse day. So this person would be in the lowest point at the moment, most likely due to financial worries (Earth + Destructor + Fear + Wu + hexagram), at least something of big value went very wrong. Luck is also not really on their side (Ding in Qian). In terms of personality, this is still a very nice person with a fierce or fixed way of doing things. They also do not have the patience to wait for the result of their work and constantly does too many different things and end up achieving nothing. This causes them financial worries.

Person 6: Black Tortoise Assistant Open Yi Geng

Obviously this would be the most cunning one with a politician mindset (Tortoise + Yi + Geng). Shamelessly uses their charms, underhanded tactics and flip flop their personality to get people to give them whatever they want, especially in work related matters (Open). Their modus operandi is by blindsiding everyone with fake knowledge (Assistant with Tortoise). Their true intention is to open up their own branding/travel opportunities and eliminate all other competitors (Dragon Force formation) by using other people (Geng -Yi). In terms of personality, they super charming, do have a great affinity with knowledge but the issue is it ends up misused. They have no problem cooking up fake information and at the moment people believe them and willingly gives them anything without having to ask. The good thing is that this will eventually bring them big trouble (Geng + Hexagram in Kan) and in the end not get what they want.

Special Note: You might ask, Assistant with Tortoise can also mean a very influential and knowledgeable speaker, it is traditionally a rogue teacher (in Malay we call this ‘ajaran sesat’) but in this case we differentiate by looking at the stem, which are negative and the formation is equally cunning, so this person will tilt to the negative and not the positive.

Person 7: White Tiger Hero Rest Xin Ren

Of everyone on the table, this person is likely the most relaxed one. Possibly they were enjoying the company and found this meeting rejuvenating. There is also a lot of things to be done that are not yet done (hexagram) so this Tiger better get moving. In terms of personality, this person loves to dress up and look good, most likely also very skilled in speech (Xin) and whenever they speak they really look good (Hero). Personality wise this person has a lot of energy, most likely loves sports activities and is resilient to most hardship. They have a vision and also a powerful persona that makes people listen to them but may have a small issue with clarity.

Technically I have just deciphered an entire chart to you. And I do this by truly understanding the individual components (Qimen Destiny/Forecasting) as well as the structure (Qimen Strategic Execution). From this one chart alone, you will manage to map out anyone’s personalities and sometimes you just want to know who are helpful? Who are not? Who is sincere? Who are not? In fact from this chart you can also foretell which person will not get along with which person. This will be very useful if you’re stuck in an unstable/complex environment or you’re not even sure who to trust – and not really for anyone to pry into any other people’s businesses. Because it’s really not that fun to know too much in the first place. Theoretically it’s really good for technical practice but in the real world, you should just let it go and let things be. Let evil eradicate itself.

Only advanced student could read it as detailed as I did, so if you’re not, don’t fret. The Deity alone is enough to tell you what you need to know. A Tortoise is a Tortoise. A Chief is a Chief. Next time just match it with the Door. Then the Star and the stems. Feel like learning Qimen yet? 🙂


8 thoughts on “The Qimen Method: Read Anyone Under 2 Seconds

  1. excellent exercise! I know nothing of Qimen…it’s next on the list of things I want to learn, thank’s for teasing me!!


  2. Mindy,

    Congratulations and gratitude are not enough for all the informations you kindly share with us.
    I learned so much from you in the past months… even in april at Qimen Academy you’ve shared with me so much knowledge although I spent just 10 minutes with you in coaches area :).
    Keep up the good work…



  3. Thanks

    On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:20 AM Mind Your Qi by Mindy Yoong wrote:

    > Mindy Yoong posted: “I’ve forgotten all about this old theory that Dato > had taught many years back. He said in case you were in an unfamiliar > social setting, or in a meeting, or even amongst friends or colleagues, > someone you met for the first time, you could actually plot ou” >


  4. Hi, Mindy, I am a student of Dato and a fan of yours. May I use Qimen to look at my daughter’s boyfriends character before she goes on to a relationship with him, but don’t have their date of birth. Should I use the day (the asker) or the hour (outcome) in the forecaster software. Please let me know. Thank you.


    • Hi Jenny, what you can do it to just plot and hour chart, the look at the Geng, Yi and 6 Harmony to see everyone’s intention and expectation of the relationship. You don’t need their DOBs 🙂


      • Wow, Mandy thank you so much for the speedy replied. Just recalled Dato Joey’s lesson on relationships! I am from Hong Kong and if you drop by Hong Kong, please do let me know and I will bring you around.

        Cheers : Jenny

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